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	<title>Comments on: Premiership Ratings:  Biggest Bang for the Buck</title>
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		<title>By: Fredorrarci</title>
		<link>http://soccerorb.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/premiership-ratings-biggest-bang-for-the-buck/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredorrarci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sour? They taste pretty sweet to me...

Anyway, we&#039;re going through similar crap with Hleb at the moment, and maybe with Adebayor as well depending on how far Milan or Barcelona want to push things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sour? They taste pretty sweet to me&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, we&#8217;re going through similar crap with Hleb at the moment, and maybe with Adebayor as well depending on how far Milan or Barcelona want to push things.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those were the bad old days, indeed.  We had a similar system in baseball as well, but now players can become free agents after six years or so.  (Don&#039;t really know off the top of my head).  Even then, six years is a long time for any player to be stuck somewhere that he doesn&#039;t want to be.  

I definitely favor every player having the right to freely negotiate and move to the situation that&#039;s best for him.  After all, that&#039;s what we have in the dull &quot;real world.&quot;  But the Crissy situation is strange to me because it makes his contract seem meaningless.  

Maybe it&#039;s foolish to agree to contracts that are longer than a year or two--especially with highly talented, youthful starlets like Ronaldo.  I can see why United wanted to tie him up for a long time.  It will probably come out to their advantage anyway, assuming they can coax a fat transfer fee out of Real.  United got a couple of great years out of him and they can use the cash to pick up other players.  No player is irreplaceable.  

(Those grapes are sooo deliciously sour).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those were the bad old days, indeed.  We had a similar system in baseball as well, but now players can become free agents after six years or so.  (Don&#8217;t really know off the top of my head).  Even then, six years is a long time for any player to be stuck somewhere that he doesn&#8217;t want to be.  </p>
<p>I definitely favor every player having the right to freely negotiate and move to the situation that&#8217;s best for him.  After all, that&#8217;s what we have in the dull &#8220;real world.&#8221;  But the Crissy situation is strange to me because it makes his contract seem meaningless.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s foolish to agree to contracts that are longer than a year or two&#8211;especially with highly talented, youthful starlets like Ronaldo.  I can see why United wanted to tie him up for a long time.  It will probably come out to their advantage anyway, assuming they can coax a fat transfer fee out of Real.  United got a couple of great years out of him and they can use the cash to pick up other players.  No player is irreplaceable.  </p>
<p>(Those grapes are sooo deliciously sour).</p>
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		<title>By: Fredorrarci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredorrarci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contract issue, part of me sees this kind of this thing as some kind of karmic revenge for the old retain-and-transfer system in England, whereby a club held a player&#039;s registration effectively in perpetuity. A player could put in a transfer request, but if it was rejected, tough. The only other way to leave was if you were cut at the end of the season, and even then (I think) your club could still demand a transfer fee if they wanted. It took years of agitation from the Players&#039; Union to change this, and they partly succeeded in the &#039;60s; it was only fully brought down by Bosman. So, on a cosmic level, if one believes in such things, the clubs are reaping what they sowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contract issue, part of me sees this kind of this thing as some kind of karmic revenge for the old retain-and-transfer system in England, whereby a club held a player&#8217;s registration effectively in perpetuity. A player could put in a transfer request, but if it was rejected, tough. The only other way to leave was if you were cut at the end of the season, and even then (I think) your club could still demand a transfer fee if they wanted. It took years of agitation from the Players&#8217; Union to change this, and they partly succeeded in the &#8217;60s; it was only fully brought down by Bosman. So, on a cosmic level, if one believes in such things, the clubs are reaping what they sowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

I was going to ask Steve if he could find the same data for other leagues and see what those results look like.  He&#039;s out for a run now, but I&#039;m sure he can tell you which program he used to generate that regression.  He just came back and said it was S-Plus, but anything will do, including an Excel spreadsheet.  

Weren&#039;t you taking Portuguese in school?  That should help you when you go over there some day to watch FC Porto or Benfica, right?  I wonder how Freddy likes his total-immersion Portuguese language education.  That&#039;s the best way to learn, of course.  Btw, I haven&#039;t read your Porto article yet--you had so many posts for me to catch up on.  

I will admit that I don&#039;t really understand how someone who is in the middle of a written contract can expect to get out of it just because he wants to.  My American/Anglo-Saxon sensibilities on contracts would make me respond, &quot;Tough luck, Crissy.  You&#039;re stuck in Manchester.&quot;  But I suppose they do things differently in European football.  

Time to watch Switzerland-Czech Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>I was going to ask Steve if he could find the same data for other leagues and see what those results look like.  He&#8217;s out for a run now, but I&#8217;m sure he can tell you which program he used to generate that regression.  He just came back and said it was S-Plus, but anything will do, including an Excel spreadsheet.  </p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t you taking Portuguese in school?  That should help you when you go over there some day to watch FC Porto or Benfica, right?  I wonder how Freddy likes his total-immersion Portuguese language education.  That&#8217;s the best way to learn, of course.  Btw, I haven&#8217;t read your Porto article yet&#8211;you had so many posts for me to catch up on.  </p>
<p>I will admit that I don&#8217;t really understand how someone who is in the middle of a written contract can expect to get out of it just because he wants to.  My American/Anglo-Saxon sensibilities on contracts would make me respond, &#8220;Tough luck, Crissy.  You&#8217;re stuck in Manchester.&#8221;  But I suppose they do things differently in European football.  </p>
<p>Time to watch Switzerland-Czech Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting.  That makes me curious about the Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish leagues.  What stats program (if any) did you use to make that?  I wish I could elaborate and discuss, but my statistics background is pretty basic at the moment.  But, I&#039;m still very curious about those leagues.  Hmm...

Your translation was close.

&quot;Are you (plural) ready?  I&#039;m ready for Euro 2008, I am not able to wait (or I can&#039;t wait).  I am ready to watch the soccer team of Portugal dance their way to victory!  At arms Portugal!&quot;
  
- There will be more posts entirely in Portuguese to come, and hopefully someone fluent will correct my errors so I can learn during the summer.

As for Ronaldo, he may indeed go to Spain.  At first it didn&#039;t sound like he or Man U were having any of it.  However the news/media keep insisting there&#039;s something there.  Of course with the help of the Madrid boss&#039; persistence.  If he has made a decision, we won&#039;t hear about it until after the Euros.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting.  That makes me curious about the Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish leagues.  What stats program (if any) did you use to make that?  I wish I could elaborate and discuss, but my statistics background is pretty basic at the moment.  But, I&#8217;m still very curious about those leagues.  Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Your translation was close.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you (plural) ready?  I&#8217;m ready for Euro 2008, I am not able to wait (or I can&#8217;t wait).  I am ready to watch the soccer team of Portugal dance their way to victory!  At arms Portugal!&#8221;</p>
<p>- There will be more posts entirely in Portuguese to come, and hopefully someone fluent will correct my errors so I can learn during the summer.</p>
<p>As for Ronaldo, he may indeed go to Spain.  At first it didn&#8217;t sound like he or Man U were having any of it.  However the news/media keep insisting there&#8217;s something there.  Of course with the help of the Madrid boss&#8217; persistence.  If he has made a decision, we won&#8217;t hear about it until after the Euros.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great peice.I love to think.Great one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great peice.I love to think.Great one.</p>
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